Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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I got a eTrex 22x for my wife.

When I add geocaches to the SD card under \Garmin\GPX and check the menu item Geocaches it tell me I do not have any that I need to download them.

Tried also in the memory of the eTrex 22x same problem.

Note:
I have over 200 Geocaches which I use on other GPS units with no problems.

So I removed all of them from the SD card and installed them via Mapsource. That was a complete waste of time because it only every show one installed each time I transfer a geocache.
But you still do not it under Geocache Menu.
If I go to Geocache.com and install one cache via Garmin express. When I remove my 22x from my laptop and start it again it then show one geocache installed in the Geocache Menu.

But when I look on the GPX folder it has a very long name and not the GC code.

Now it would take me for ever to install 50+ geocaches that way. (Not a full member just a general account)
If I go back to just coping the 50+ geocaches to the SD card they are all there under Where To? Waypoints.

Why do I not see them under Geocaches Menu???

I can do the same thing to my old eTrex HCx and they all show under Find Geocache.
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Re: Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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Wow, I have been a premium member at Geocaching.com for so long I do not remember what restrictions and limitations non-premium members had to deal with then, much less now!

Please have a look at GPSrChive > How To... > Geocaching and let us know if any of the methods shown there help you, or not.
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Re: Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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I removed all the GPX files.
Then copied just one back to the internal memory \Garmin\GPX
Again no Geocache in the Geocache Menu only in Where To: Waypoints. also on the screen you can see it.

I removed it again this time I went to Geocache.com and downloaded the same geocache the manual way.
Copied it to the GPX folder.
Then removed the 22x from the Laptop.
This time it show up on the Geocache Menu.
So I download the 50+ we are going to use and all are there now.
I still have the first ones I downloaded in a folder on my laptop and they work on the eTrex HCx with no problems at all.

I will have to redo all the geocaches I have download a month ago so they will work on the eTrex 22x.
Have no idea why this problem is there.
But it is now working just a lot of work ahead of me to get all my Geocaches over again.
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Re: Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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Can you please send me those previous files that are 'not working'?

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Re: Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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Email sent to you with some of the GPX's in a rar file.
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Thank You!

As I suspected (but needed to verify), those files you sent me are NOT Geocache files, they are Waypoint files. You can see a huge difference if you open each version in a text editor:

Waypoint

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no" ?>
<gpx xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1" creator="MapSource 6.16.3" version="1.1" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd">

  <metadata>
    <link href="http://www.garmin.com">
      <text>Garmin International</text>
    </link>
    <time>2020-08-29T15:30:20Z</time>
    <bounds maxlat="50.94633299857378" maxlon="4.584332993254066" minlat="50.94633299857378" minlon="4.584332993254066"/>
  </metadata>

  <wpt lat="50.94633299857378" lon="4.584332993254066">
    <time>2015-12-09T23:00:00Z</time>
    <name>GC68039</name>
    <cmt>Park Van Relst by ollivieeke</cmt>
    <desc>Park Van Relst by ollivieeke</desc>
    <link href="https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC68039"/>
    <sym>Geocache</sym>
    <extensions>
      <gpxx:WaypointExtension xmlns:gpxx="http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/GpxExtensions/v3">
        <gpxx:DisplayMode>SymbolAndName</gpxx:DisplayMode>
      </gpxx:WaypointExtension>
    </extensions>
  </wpt>

</gpx>
Geocache

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<gpx xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" version="1.0" creator="Groundspeak, Inc. All Rights Reserved. http://www.groundspeak.com" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0/gpx.xsd http://www.groundspeak.com/cache/1/0/1 http://www.groundspeak.com/cache/1/0/1/cache.xsd" xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/0">
  <name>Cache Listing Generated from Geocaching.com</name>
  <desc>This is an individual cache generated from Geocaching.com</desc>
  <author>Account "ollivieeke" From Geocaching.com</author>
  <email>contact@geocaching.com</email>
  <url>https://www.geocaching.com</url>
  <urlname>Geocaching - High Tech Treasure Hunting</urlname>
  <time>2020-08-29T15:58:09.0833429Z</time>
  <keywords>cache, geocache</keywords>
  <bounds minlat="50.945764" minlon="4.584333" maxlat="50.946333" maxlon="4.585478" />
  <wpt lat="50.946333" lon="4.584333">
    <time>2015-12-10T00:00:00</time>
    <name>GC68039</name>
    <desc>Park Van Relst by ollivieeke, Traditional Cache (1.5/2)</desc>
    <url>https://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=b6468227-2fc4-449f-b4b7-2163182f6ba3</url>
    <urlname>Park Van Relst</urlname>
    <sym>Geocache</sym>
    <type>Geocache|Traditional Cache</type>
    <groundspeak:cache id="5368436" available="True" archived="False" xmlns:groundspeak="http://www.groundspeak.com/cache/1/0/1">
      <groundspeak:name>Park Van Relst</groundspeak:name>
      <groundspeak:placed_by>ollivieeke</groundspeak:placed_by>
      <groundspeak:owner id="13883717">ollivieeke</groundspeak:owner>
      <groundspeak:type>Traditional Cache</groundspeak:type>
      <groundspeak:container>Micro</groundspeak:container>
      <groundspeak:attributes>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="1" inc="1">Dogs</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="6" inc="1">Recommended for kids</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="7" inc="1">Takes less than one hour</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="13" inc="1">Available 24/7</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="15" inc="1">Available in winter</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="25" inc="1">Parking nearby</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="30" inc="1">Picnic tables nearby</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="32" inc="1">Bicycles</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="41" inc="1">Stroller accessible</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="53" inc="1">Park and grab</groundspeak:attribute>
        <groundspeak:attribute id="63" inc="1">Recommended for tourists</groundspeak:attribute>
      </groundspeak:attributes>
      <groundspeak:difficulty>1.5</groundspeak:difficulty>
      <groundspeak:terrain>2</groundspeak:terrain>
      <groundspeak:country>Belgium</groundspeak:country>
      <groundspeak:state>Vlaams-Brabant</groundspeak:state>
      <groundspeak:short_description html="True"><p style="color:green;">Update 10-Juli-2020: De COVID-19 maatregels in het park van Relst werden versoepeld. Hierdoor kan de cache opnieuw gelogd worden.</p>
<br />
DEZE CACHE WERD VERPLAATST OP 19-AUG-2019 NAAR ZIJN NIEUWE LOCATIE IN HET PARK. DIT WAS NODIG OMDAT ER BODEMHERSTELLENDE PLAATSEN WERDEN AANGELEGD OP DE VOORMALIGE PLAATS VAN DE CACHE;
</groundspeak:short_description>
      <groundspeak:long_description html="True"><p><img alt="Poduimplaatsen" dir="ltr" lang="NL" src="https://img.geocaching.com/cache/large/7b80639d-7509-4f18-8b17-9a7e4de8b63c.jpg" style="float:left;height:192px;width:200px;" />Deze cache is geplaatst in het Park van Relst om de kinderen op een veilige manier te laten kennismaken met het principe van geocaching. In dit park komen veel mensen dus men moet goed opletten dat het loggen van de cache discreet gebeurt. Er kunnen <em>'muggles'</em> aanwezig zijn in het park! De locatie, van deze cache, werd met een smartphone genomen dus gelieve hiermee rekening te houden bij het zoeken ;-) .</p>
<p>De geschiedenis van het <a href="http://www.parkvanrelst.be" lang="NL" name="Park Van Relst" target="_blank">Park van Relst</a> gaat terug tot 1910. Dan koopt mevrouw Antoon De Bruyn (“Mevrouw Tony”) een aantal akkers naast het park van het kasteel Ten Opstal.  Op deze akkers laat ze een villa bouwen, de villa “Franciscus-Xaverius”, met een bijhorende tuin. Deze tuin zou later het Park van Relst worden.  Bij het overlijden van mevrouw Tony in 1933 worden de villa en de tuin bij testament geschonken aan het bisdom Mechelen.  Kardinaal Van Roey verblijft er af en toe na de middag, op zijn buitenverblijf, om er wat uit te rusten of, zoals hij zelf zegt, "om er rustig te kunnen werken". Na het overlijden van kardinaal Van Roey in 1961 starten onder impuls van de nieuwe pastoor Dictus Leus de eerste besprekingen met het bisdom Mechelen over de aankoop van het park.  Uiteindelijk komt er voor de parochie een heel gunstige regeling uit de bus. De villa, die als parochielokaal niet geschikt is, wordt aan particulieren verkocht. Het park mag de parochie zo lang gebruiken als ze wil, zolang het gebruik ervan maar ten dienste staat van de parochie.  Relst heeft het meteen goed begrepen. Het is de bedoeling een nieuwe parochiezaal te bouwen, samen met een speeltuin voor de kinderen van Relst.  Om de nodige financiële middelen bijeen te krijgen, rekent men op de inwoners van Relst. Door heel wat parochianen wordt renteloos een soort startkapitaal samengebracht.  In 1964 wordt de huidige parochiezaal opgetrokken. Veel 'stielmannen' komen er niet aan te pas.  "Dat kunnen we allemaal zelf!" zegt pastoor Dictus, die zelf ook geregeld de handen uit de mouwen steekt.  Stap voor stap, in functie van de financiële mogelijkheden, wordt de zaal verder uitgebouwd.</p>

<p>Additional Hidden Waypoints</p>P068039 - Park van Relst<br />N 50° 56.746 E 004° 35.129<br /><br /></groundspeak:long_description>
      <groundspeak:encoded_hints>1+4=5
2+6=14
8+4=20
6+5=?</groundspeak:encoded_hints>
      <groundspeak:logs>
        <groundspeak:log id="958823230">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-08-28T03:32:56Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="28447488">malamathima</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Gevonden, maar ik zou wel een nieuwe smartphone kopen om de locatie te bepalen 🤪</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="956207148">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-08-19T20:58:49Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="31585131">Marleen_Delcon</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Beetje verder dan aangegeven!</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="951690839">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-08-04T23:52:58Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="31462603">renoke2002</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Gevonden</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="951690216">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-08-04T23:51:25Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="31445091">wimmeke1979</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Niet makkelijk maar toch gevonden</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="946730057">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-07-20T23:20:02Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="8367935">Senior Prutser</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Leuke cache, dank u! </groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="944375048">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-07-13T19:00:00Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Owner Maintenance</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="13883717">ollivieeke</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">De COVID-19 maatregels in het park van Relst werden versoepeld. Hierdoor kan de cache opnieuw gelogd worden.</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="942393724">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-07-06T22:36:11Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="28686385">Annick87</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Even moeten zoeken, maar uiteindelijk toch gevonden </groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="949036943">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-07-05T20:26:00Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Didn't find it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="7003894">jeanke53</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">hier niks kunnen vinden </groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="944646018">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-07-05T20:26:00Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Didn't find it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="5835294">tim12jimmi</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">jammer niet gevonden</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="926469442">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-05-11T21:14:09Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Enable Listing</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="13883717">ollivieeke</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Tot op heden is het park van Relst gesloten.  Deze cache momenteel niet gelogd worden.</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="926468578">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-05-11T19:00:00Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Owner Maintenance</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="13883717">ollivieeke</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Zoals SatelliteSuzy & "Kompas van Columbus" aangeven, is het park van Relst gesloten.

Mvg
Olivier</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="926325925">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-05-11T03:39:57Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Temporarily Disable Listing</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="20624434">SatelliteSuzy</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Beste CO

ik plaats deze cache even op disabled omwille van de nota van Kompas van Columbus. Indien het park terug opengesteld wordt en de cache is nagekeken mag de listing terug geactiveerd/enabled worden.

Graag communiceren via logs en nota's op deze listing. Indien de cache binnen 30 dagen nog steeds disabled is zonder enige toelichting van uwentwege zal deze listing onherroepelijk gearchiveerd worden.

Met vriendelijke groeten

SatelliteSuzy
Community Volunteer Reviewer Vlaanderen</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="924048574">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-05-02T23:02:27Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Needs Maintenance</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="594400">Kompas van Columbus</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Deze geocacher heeft gemeld dat er een probleem is met deze cache.</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="924048563">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-05-02T19:00:00Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Didn't find it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="594400">Kompas van Columbus</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Het park is afgesloten wegens COVID-19. Je kan deze best even offline zetten.</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="923612286">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-05-01T03:14:37Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Didn't find it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="17454774">Yboika</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Niet gevonden</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="923568823">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-04-30T22:28:53Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Didn't find it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="29561079">Sakkemajo</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Niet gevonden</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="914835304">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-03-20T23:45:18Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="29007173">nathanmelsens</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Gg.</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="913798618">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-03-15T23:00:43Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="7320122">YesNogEentje</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">#323 lenn heeft hem gevonden! Zo fier als ne gieter! Tftc!</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="913323986">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-03-14T18:40:19Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="24338390">BertGybels</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">Na beetje zoeken en dankzij de tip gevonden!</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
        <groundspeak:log id="911536012">
          <groundspeak:date>2020-03-02T20:00:00Z</groundspeak:date>
          <groundspeak:type>Found it</groundspeak:type>
          <groundspeak:finder id="16396582">Marcske57</groundspeak:finder>
          <groundspeak:text encoded="False">toch gevonden na lang zoeken ..</groundspeak:text>
        </groundspeak:log>
      </groundspeak:logs>
      <groundspeak:travelbugs />
    </groundspeak:cache>
  </wpt>
  <wpt lat="50.945764" lon="4.585478">
    <time>2015-12-10T01:49:49.69</time>
    <name>P068039</name>
    <cmt />
    <desc>Park van Relst</desc>
    <url>https://www.geocaching.com/seek/wpt.aspx?WID=67429923-e2cd-47dc-b829-cb47347ee061</url>
    <urlname>Park van Relst</urlname>
    <sym>Parking Area</sym>
    <type>Waypoint|Parking Area</type>
  </wpt>
</gpx>
I know a lot of people like to use MapSource for whatever reasons, but I would highly recommend NOT using MapSource with your new eTrex, as it is designed to be used with BaseCamp. MapSource was designed for your older eTrex units. Completely different operating principles. MapSource doesn't actually know what a geocache is and treats them as waypoints with a geocache symbol. BaseCamp actually recognizes and treats geocaches differently from waypoints.

Also, you do not need to use either for geocaching, just download the desired GPX files directly to the GPSr!

And, of course, this is where the premium membership comes in real handy. So many more options and capabilities with lists and PQ's that make getting geocaches in bulk onto your GPSr so much easier and quicker. Especially with the newer GCLive enabled GPSr, which can load your PQs and Lists directly to the device without ever connecting to a PC/Mac!
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Thank you for your help.
I will leave Mapsource out of the picture from now on.
Have been thinking about getting a premium account for sometime now.
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Re: Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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OK here is the next problem. I use Mapsource to layout a track with the Geocaches so we do not zig zag all over the place. How do I get around this problem if I load a blank pager in Mapsource and add the Geocaches so I can make the track we want to take with out screwing up the Geocaches in the first place.
Can it be done with making a track then removing the Geocaches and then saving the track so it can be overlaid on the map and still see the Geocaches??? Basecamp is not a tool I like to use.
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You will jave to experiment and let us know. I don't even have MapSource jnstalled on my computer as I find BaseCamp far superior. I recommend putting in the time to learn BaseCamp!
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Re: Geocaches not showing under Geocache menu

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OK I tried some tracks made them with the Geocaches attached using Mapsource.
Before I saved the tracks I removed the Geocaches and saved.
Copied them to the eTrex 22x and all works.

I will try to learn Basecamp when I get the time. Been looking at Gsak if it would work the same way as Mapsource.
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